This l/l is just okay.  The color, IMO, looks nasty by itself.  It's a nude that comes out orange-y.  It looks fine when paired with l/s or l/g-- but I truly despise its look alone.  The texture isn't terrible, but once you put it in, it settles into your lip cracks to some extent.  It does its job-- lines the lips and is a good base with l/s or l/g-- so I won't take off the rating completely, but I'll def. be trying something else.